Nuno Tone JCM800 RAT Jalen FW pickup

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Re: Nuno Tone JCM800 RAT Jalen FW pickup

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harddriver wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:33 am The FW pickup does a pretty good NUNO you'll just need to EQ in more highs and bite as if it were a BL L500XL. ;)
I think so too.

It feels good to play, but it's lacking in the high-end still.
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Re: Nuno Tone JCM800 RAT Jalen FW pickup

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PLX wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:35 am
Nice..... it sounds even tighter and crunchier than the HMWH clip...... ;)

Waht speaker IR are you using?

Where is your preamp gain set? 7-8?

VOLTAGE?
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PLX wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:36 am
harddriver wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:33 am The FW pickup does a pretty good NUNO you'll just need to EQ in more highs and bite as if it were a BL L500XL. ;)
I think so too.

It feels good to play, but it's lacking in the high-end still.
I can tell it has that bounce to the midrange on the D and G strings...ala NUNO, yo have to feel a difference playing if I can hear the difference.

You can always add the highs, keep bumping the Voltage until you reach maximum NUNO tightness and then goof with the HIGH end bite.
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Presence at 6 now.

Preamp at 6

Adjusted EQ slightly and re-balance speaker IR's

Speakers : 1971 “pre-Rola” Celestion G12M with 55 Hz cone blended with a Celestion G12H 55 (supposedly Nuno speaker)
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PLX wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:53 am

Presence at 6 now.

Preamp at 6

Adjusted EQ slightly and re-balance speaker IR's

Speakers : 1971 “pre-Rola” Celestion G12M with 55 Hz cone blended with a Celestion G12H 55 (supposedly Nuno speaker)
What is the AC voltage in this clip? Did you bump it to 110ACV?
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harddriver wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:07 amWhat is the AC voltage in this clip? Did you bump it to 110ACV?
Naw, it was at 100V
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You've heard it... you've played it...now it's up to you to finish executing. ;)

I still think it needs a little more gain and compression. Try pre-amp gain at 7-8. Turn that voltage up to at least 110-115ACV. 8-)
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harddriver wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:10 pm You've heard it... you've played it...now it's up to you to finish executing. ;)

I still think it needs a little more gain and compression. Try pre-amp gain at 7-8. Turn that voltage up to at least 110-115ACV. 8-)
I was thinking I'm using the wrong speaker impulse responses and/or I need to tweak the knobs on the RAT pedal..

It's waaay to bass heavy for Nuno's sound.

I'm actually not hearing all that bass when I'm playing/recording it because I'm sitting at a desk with two monitors pointed at each ear and it's pretty loud. But when I go back a day later and listen to all these tracks, I hear it.. :|
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PLX wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:31 pm
I was thinking I'm using the wrong speaker impulse responses and/or I need to tweak the knobs on the RAT pedal..

It's waaay to bass heavy for Nuno's sound.

I'm actually not hearing all that bass when I'm playing/recording it because I'm sitting at a desk with two monitors pointed at each ear and it's pretty loud. But when I go back a day later and listen to all these tracks, I hear it.. :|
You have a pretty good core tone right now...could it get better if you continue trying the base amp settings I recommend? There is only one way to find out and take another 2-3 seconds to turn that variac up a little more. :roll:

You need to finish executing the core tone on before changing your IR's and such, I think the IR's sound fine. Once you have that tight, bouncy pokey crunchy tone then tweak the post EQ from there. With only 10 more volts to 100VAC has made a drastic improvement. Maybe you should continue your journey. In the end you may prefer 100VAC and that will be your call but you can either prove me and yourself right or wrong with a clip at 110-115VAC and maybe set the preamp gain to 7-8.

Personally I think the greenback and 12H-30 are good NUNO speakers.

Again you are going to have to back the master volume down some as the plate voltage goes up.
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harddriver wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 5:27 pm You have a pretty good core tone right now...could it get better if you continue trying the base amp settings I recommend? There is only one way to find out and take another 2-3 seconds to turn that variac up a little more. :roll:

You need to finish executing the core tone on before changing your IR's and such, I think the IR's sound fine. Once you have that tight, bouncy pokey crunchy tone then tweak the post EQ from there. With only 10 more volts to 100VAC has made a drastic improvement. Maybe you should continue your journey. In the end you may prefer 100VAC and that will be your call but you can either prove me and yourself right or wrong with a clip at 110-115VAC and maybe set the preamp gain to 7-8.

Personally I think the greenback and 12H-30 are good NUNO speakers.

Again you are going to have to back the master volume down some as the plate voltage goes up.
I set the variac at 115V a couple hours ago.

I can't record right now because my wife is on a conference call for work.

That's the thing.. I don't have that speaker impulse.

I only have these:
1977 Celestion G12H “black back” with 55 Hz cone
1969 “pre-Rola” Celestion G12H with 55 Hz cone
Celestion "Heritage" G12H with 55 Hz cone
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