Nuno Tone JCM800 RAT Jalen FW pickup

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Re: Nuno Tone JCM800 RAT Jalen FW pickup

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harddriver wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:43 pm I was going to say don't regress back the setting of 6 that chokes the amp. Stay on 8 for NUNO! ;) You might want to write your setting down somewhere....Just sayin.... ;)

I think why the vintage 30 works for your setup is mainly the guitar, the mahogany body is darker and the FW pickup is darker so the brightness and mid emphasis of the vintage 30 works perfectly to bring out the high end bite more like you were running an ash/alder N4 and L500XL pickup.

I say use what works with your setup and the V30 sounds like it works for you! With a L500XL the darker greenback and 12H-30 would work well to tame the highs and thin qualities of that pickup. Your setup is opposite.......... hence the V30 shines here. :D 8-)

From the clips the D and G seem bouncey and tight and using III term..pokey with that telltale crunch on the muted ascending and descending run ala from the RAT.... I think you have arrived at your destination.

I'd say you have 98% NUNO tone PLX....that extra 2% is the 100K NFB. ;) But you already know how to take care of that... 8-)
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PLX wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:30 pm Your Decadence Dance clip there sounds dead on correct.
Funny thing is there isn't a RAT pedal to be found... Friedman BEODD into '66 Fender Deluxe.

And IIRC, just a few twists of the EQ knobs (prolly Pultecs).
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lll wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:16 pm
PLX wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:30 pm Your Decadence Dance clip there sounds dead on correct.
Funny thing is there isn't a RAT pedal to be found... Friedman BEODD into '66 Fender Deluxe.

And IIRC, just a few twists of the EQ knobs (prolly Pultecs).
Thus proving.. there's more than one way to skin a cat.

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PLX wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:18 pm
lll wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:16 pm
PLX wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:30 pm Your Decadence Dance clip there sounds dead on correct.
Funny thing is there isn't a RAT pedal to be found... Friedman BEODD into '66 Fender Deluxe.

And IIRC, just a few twists of the EQ knobs (prolly Pultecs).
Thus proving.. there's more than one way to skin a cat.

:lol:
The BEODD is set for real bright (bottom row) and scooped (presence is cranked)

...and low end is tight
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Looks like I used Celestion's G12M Heritage "Bright" and "Dark" iRs for that DDance track.

Pultecs were boosted 100 @ 10 (cranked), boosted 3K @ 4.5 with bandwith @ 5.

Also a Manley Massive Passive on the "2" (final stereo bus) boosting 100, 270 a little, cutting 680 a good amount and boosting 5.6K a good amount
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I'll have to look at my MP-1 + RAT sessions later to see what was going on there.
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I know there's more than one way to skin a RAT, but I wouldn't use a V30 for Nunotone... too middy.

G12H30, or Greenback at "worst".

But I'm remembering (IIRC) I did use the Celestion G12H30 Heritage (prolly how I got corn-fused on my 66 deluxe + BEODD iR speakers; those were Celestion Heritages too, but the 25W Greenback ones) on later Nuno stuff (prolly the ADA MP1 + RAT ones)... which is why I need to check those settings (later).
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lll wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:34 pm Looks like I used Celestion's G12M Heritage "Bright" and "Dark" iRs for that DDance track.

Pultecs were boosted 100 @ 10 (cranked), boosted 3K @ 4.5 with bandwith @ 5.

Also a Manley Massive Passive on the "2" (final stereo bus) boosting 100, 270 a little, cutting 680 a good amount and boosting 5.6K a good amount
Sounds about right.

I'm also running the ReaEQ that's native to ReaperDAW and I have it boosting 60Hz at 18dB :shock:

That's where that thump is coming from. :D
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harddriver wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:43 pm
I think why the vintage 30 works for your setup is mainly the guitar, the mahogany body is darker and the FW pickup is darker so the brightness and mid emphasis of the vintage 30 works perfectly to bring out the high end bite more like you were running an ash/alder N4 and L500XL pickup.
Good consideration; he's not using an alder strat with a super bright pickup.

Maybe the V30 is the trick for his particular mahog guitar... :?:

Which begs the question: where is PLX's superstrat? Everyone's gotta have one! :lol:
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lll wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:59 pmWhich begs the question: where is PLX's superstrat? Everyone's gotta have one! :lol:
I sold my Strat when I got out of basic training (1983) :lol:

One day, if I don't die of old age first, I'll get me a damned Nuno guitar.

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